David Chappell: Superstar,
it’s a real pleasure to have you
in the Mid-Atlantic Gateway to
talk about your recently
released autobiography as part
of the WWE Legends series,
“Superstar Billy Graham—Tangled
Ropes.”
Superstar Billy Graham: Good
deal, buddy…happy to be here.
Chappell: Absolutely awesome
book. You and your co-author
Keith Elliott Greenberg must be
extremely proud of the book. The
Gateway is certainly proud to
call Keith a good friend.
We’re hoping to help get the
word out about the book to a lot
of the Mid-Atlantic and Jim
Crockett Promotions fans that
visit our website. A lot of the
Mid-Atlantic fans remember you
to some degree, but
unfortunately you weren’t around
the Crockett territory nearly
enough! I believe if we can give
them just a small taste of the
flavor of your book, they’ll
without a doubt love it.
Graham: I appreciate that…I
really do buddy.
Chappell: I sure wish we had
seen more of you in Mid-Atlantic
Championship Wrestling!
Graham: (pauses) Yeah, I
enjoyed it [in the Mid-Atlantic
area]. I really did. Though, it
was just a different deal with
Crockett than the WWF at the
time, you know.
Chappell: What were your
impressions of Jim Crockett
Promotions during the time you
were in?
Graham: Well, it was really
crowded with a lot of good
talent!
Chappell: Without a doubt…
Graham: Just congested with
a lot of talent…Dusty [Rhodes],
Jimmy Valiant and it goes on and
on. Just so much talent!
What happened, was that the
format of the shows was so much
different…there wasn’t as much
time. And it was a hard
adjustment for me…I wasn’t
really ever able to adjust.
Chappell: (laughs) I
think you did just fine down
here, Superstar!
Graham: But the fans…I just
really enjoyed the fans down in
the Mid-Atlantic area
tremendously.
Chappell: That’s great to
hear. I assure you the feeling
was mutual!
While you did some guest shots
in the Mid-Atlantic area in
1975, 1976, and 1977 in the
territory’s biggest arena, the
Greensboro Coliseum, and you
also wrestled in Starrcade’s
1984 and 1985, your two most
memorable stints in Jim Crockett
Promotions were about a decade
apart…right after the
Wilmington, North Carolina plane
crash in 1975, and then in 1985
when wrestling’s national
expansion was just getting
underway.
Graham: That’s right.
Chappell: Both those
appearances were very
significant, particularly from a
historical perspective. In
October of 1975, Jim Crockett
Promotions lost Ric Flair and
Johnny Valentine to the plane
crash…the area’s top two heels.
You were brought into the
Mid-Atlantic area, as the book
says, you were “called into
emergency service.” And you
brought Steve Strong in with
you.
What are your recollections of
that time frame? I’m sure the
Mid-Atlantic territory was in
chaos when you came in?

Superstar Billy Graham poses in
the ring at the
Charlotte Park Center during his
first run in the Mid-Atlantic
area in 1975.
Graham: Oh yeah…it sure was.
One of my big recollections is
when they called me in to take
Ric’s place in a lot of these
towns. Steve Strong and I went
over to Ric Flair’s house, and
we walk in, and he’s laying on
his couch with his back and
everything in traction.
As
soon as we walk in, Ric gets
this big smile across his
face…you know how he gets that
big smile, and he says,
‘Superstar, I’ll be back, I’ll
be back!’ (laughs)
SPECIAL AUDIO FEATURE!
Superstar Billy Graham's first
interview in the Mid-Atlantic
area!
Mid-Atlantic Wrestling, October
15, 1975, WRAL Studios in
Raleigh NC.
Interview by Bob Caudle (501 KB,
1:25 MP3 format)
Chappell: (laughs) And
thirty years later, Ric Flair is still
going strong!
Graham: (laughs) And he’s
still around, brother…that’s
exactly right!
I
told him back then, I said,
‘Don’t worry man, I KNOW you’ll
be back…I know you will.’ Of
course, you know, Ric and I had
a real close beginning in
Minneapolis, as I’m sure you’re
aware.
Chappell: That’s right, and
the book touches on that. You
knew Ric at the very beginning
of his getting into professional
wrestling.
Graham: ‘Beginning’ meaning
even before he had his first
wrestling match…when he was in
Verne Gagne’s training camp.
Chappell: Yes, there are
some great stories in the book
about you and Ric in the AWA in
the 1972-73 time frame…when Ric
was just first getting started
in the business.
Graham: Oh yeah…he furnished
me with a lot of home gym
equipment when we were up there
in Minneapolis together.
And, of course, he’d ride along
with me and Ivan Koloff to the
different towns. And sometimes
when I’d get tired and get a
little lazy, I’d stay over night
at a motel and fly back, and Ric
would drive the car back with
Koloff and pick me up at the
airport the next day.
Chappell: I have to say,
it’s pretty amazing to think of
Ric Flair picking ANYBODY up at
the airport and driving them
around…even someone the stature
of Superstar Billy Graham!
Graham: Oh, Ric was the most
humble guy you could imagine. He
just wanted to be a professional
wrestler…he knew that was his
calling in life.
I’m
just proud to be a part of his
early, early beginnings in
wrestling.
Chappell: I think it’s
interesting that just a couple
of years later in 1975 after the
plane crash in the fall of that
year, you came into the Crockett
territory as a replacement for
Ric Flair! ‘Replacement’ isn’t
really the right word, but you
know what I mean…
Graham: I surely did fill in
a number of dates that Ric was
slotted for.
CONTINUED IN PART 2

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